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| Goblet of Fire |
Her care and sense of fairness and justice take on a social
quality with the freedom of the House Elves. She’s become aware
of the shortcomings of the political/social world of Magic.
They’re bigots, not just about blood, but also towards half-
breeds (Lupin) and magical creatures (Buckbeak, Dobby & Winky)
and aren’t too progressive with their justice system (Sirius was
thrown in Azkaban without trial, and later Shunpike). She fights
unfalteringly even if it's unpopular or misunderstood. She stands
for what is right.
Her loyalty is unwavering. She gives of herself continuously, but
never asks for anything in return. (For example, she stays up
late with Harry to help him study; she’s there for him throughout
the tasks, even gives him girl advice but never asks anything of
him in return.)
She knows how much Ron’s friendship means to Harry and knows very
well that Harry didn’t put his name in without telling them
(there’s no way he could have out-magicked Dumbledore and the
Triwizard Cup), she knows how much they mean to each other and it
hurt her to see them fighting.
quality with the freedom of the House Elves. She’s become aware
of the shortcomings of the political/social world of Magic.
They’re bigots, not just about blood, but also towards half-
breeds (Lupin) and magical creatures (Buckbeak, Dobby & Winky)
and aren’t too progressive with their justice system (Sirius was
thrown in Azkaban without trial, and later Shunpike). She fights
unfalteringly even if it's unpopular or misunderstood. She stands
for what is right.
Her loyalty is unwavering. She gives of herself continuously, but
never asks for anything in return. (For example, she stays up
late with Harry to help him study; she’s there for him throughout
the tasks, even gives him girl advice but never asks anything of
him in return.)
She knows how much Ron’s friendship means to Harry and knows very
well that Harry didn’t put his name in without telling them
(there’s no way he could have out-magicked Dumbledore and the
Triwizard Cup), she knows how much they mean to each other and it
hurt her to see them fighting.
Up until now it’s always been the boys united against her and
instead of triumphing in this change, she is upset by how much
they are hurting each other.
This marks the first time she’s in the middle, usually both boys
ignore her when either one fights with her. Instead of taking
advantage of them not speaking (like Ron pulling Harry away from
Hermione in third year over the Firebolt, which he made far worse
then it actually was) she tries to bridge the gap, despite the
competitive nature of her and Ron’s friendship.
This shows she’s not the competitive one, that it’s Ron’s
insecurity of his status in Harry’s life. Hermione’s problem with
Ron is that he is her antithesis.
He is uncouth and unmotivated; he’s not overly intelligent or
proper, and basically just a bully if left unchecked. She expects
more from him, or at least hopes for better behavior and is
always let down, and always gets attacked for what she likes or
believes in.
She’s starting to experience things in terms of herself – on a
romantic awakening level – someone is pursuing her, making her
think of herself as a girl and acknowledge feelings she possibly
ignored or didn’t register before. Someone (a great, powerful,
famous wizard who could have any girl he wanted) is pursuing the
little bookworm who never had any friends. This has to be surreal
for her.
instead of triumphing in this change, she is upset by how much
they are hurting each other.
This marks the first time she’s in the middle, usually both boys
ignore her when either one fights with her. Instead of taking
advantage of them not speaking (like Ron pulling Harry away from
Hermione in third year over the Firebolt, which he made far worse
then it actually was) she tries to bridge the gap, despite the
competitive nature of her and Ron’s friendship.
This shows she’s not the competitive one, that it’s Ron’s
insecurity of his status in Harry’s life. Hermione’s problem with
Ron is that he is her antithesis.
He is uncouth and unmotivated; he’s not overly intelligent or
proper, and basically just a bully if left unchecked. She expects
more from him, or at least hopes for better behavior and is
always let down, and always gets attacked for what she likes or
believes in.
She’s starting to experience things in terms of herself – on a
romantic awakening level – someone is pursuing her, making her
think of herself as a girl and acknowledge feelings she possibly
ignored or didn’t register before. Someone (a great, powerful,
famous wizard who could have any girl he wanted) is pursuing the
little bookworm who never had any friends. This has to be surreal
for her.
- His eyes fell instead on the girl next to Krum.
- It was Hermione.
But she didn't look like Hermione at all. She had
but sleek and shiny, and twisted up into an elegant
knot at the back of her head. She was wearing robes
made of a floaty, periwinkle-blue material, and she
was holding herself differently, somehow - or maybe it
was merely the absence of the twenty or so books she
usually had slung over her back. She was also smiling
- rather nervously, it was true - but the reduction in
the size of her front teeth was more noticeable than
ever; Harry couldn't understand how he hadn't spotted
it before.
| Goblet of Fire Chapter 23 |
But her one of her supposed best friends makes it horrible for
her – first Ron can’t believe anyone would ask her out (they
can all do each other a great favor and she can go with one of
them), then accuses her of selling Harry out.
her – first Ron can’t believe anyone would ask her out (they
can all do each other a great favor and she can go with one of
them), then accuses her of selling Harry out.
He’s jealous all right, but not because he wants
to be with her – he’s jealous of her the same
way he’s jealous of Harry before the first task.
Everyone gets attention, except for Ron, and
from a Quidditch star! ...She doesn’t even like
Quidditch, how dare she steal the object of his
man crush!
to be with her – he’s jealous of her the same
way he’s jealous of Harry before the first task.
Everyone gets attention, except for Ron, and
from a Quidditch star! ...She doesn’t even like
Quidditch, how dare she steal the object of his
man crush!
I think part of her is upset that her best
friends never noticed she was a girl...that
neither one of them ever gave her any attention
as a girl and only as a homework tool.
Actually, Harry treats her as a friend at least.
And I don’t think it was at all a problem until
the boys, namely Ron, starting acting like jerks
about who was good enough to be asked out by
them to the Ball.
friends never noticed she was a girl...that
neither one of them ever gave her any attention
as a girl and only as a homework tool.
Actually, Harry treats her as a friend at least.
And I don’t think it was at all a problem until
the boys, namely Ron, starting acting like jerks
about who was good enough to be asked out by
them to the Ball.
Ron says they didn’t want any hags and notes
that they don’t want to get stuck with an
unpopular girl. Hermione replies that the girl
he named was very nice, but he doesn’t care
about that. It’s all about the superficial to
him.
I think Hermione is mostly disappointed about
how shallow her boys apparently are and that
after they’ve exhausted all other possibilities
then they think to ask her...as a last resort.
Who wouldn’t be offended?
that they don’t want to get stuck with an
unpopular girl. Hermione replies that the girl
he named was very nice, but he doesn’t care
about that. It’s all about the superficial to
him.
I think Hermione is mostly disappointed about
how shallow her boys apparently are and that
after they’ve exhausted all other possibilities
then they think to ask her...as a last resort.
Who wouldn’t be offended?
Then to have her loyalty called into question
when she was the only one to stand behind Harry
the whole way through was just so hurtful. Just
so Ron could absolve himself.
when she was the only one to stand behind Harry
the whole way through was just so hurtful. Just
so Ron could absolve himself.
Add the unstated implication that it’s the only reason Krum would ask her
out. When she was feeling confident about herself and her appearance for
maybe the first time in her life, her best friend tears her down.
out. When she was feeling confident about herself and her appearance for
maybe the first time in her life, her best friend tears her down.
- Hermione's mouth fell open.
"Don't be so stupid!" she said after a moment. "The enemy!
him arrive? Who was the one who wanted his autograph? Who's got
a model of him up in their dormitory?"
- Ron chose to ignore this. "I s'pose he asked you to come
- "Yes, he did," said Hermione, the pink patches on her
- "What happened - trying to get him to join spew, were you?"
"No, I wasn't! If you really want to know, he - he said
me, but he hadn't been able to pluck up the courage!"
- Hermione said this very quickly, and blushed so deeply that
- "Yeah, well - that's his story," said Ron nastily.
"And what's that supposed to mean?"
"Obvious, isn't it? He's Karkaroff's student, isn't he? He
to Harry - get inside information on him - or get near enough
to jinx him -"
- Hermione looked as though Ron had slapped her.
| Goblet of Fire Chapter 23 |
Ron is said to look satisfied when Hermione runs off. She has just been
attacked for no reason, just so Ron can feel better about himself. His
reasoning for the attack, whether or not it's motivated by a desire to claim
his right as Harry's friend and protector or in jealousy because he was too
stupid to realize she was a girl prior to seeing her at the Ball in a dress
with a boy he idolized as a date, doesn't necessarily matter.
This is not how friends treat each other. Friends, potential love interests,
are not mean, spiteful and vindictive. Friends are supposed to be supportive,
comforting, concerned for each other, protective of each other, stunned
speechless by seeing the other in a new light, helpful, encouraging, and even
when they fight, everything is put to the side for the safety of the other.
attacked for no reason, just so Ron can feel better about himself. His
reasoning for the attack, whether or not it's motivated by a desire to claim
his right as Harry's friend and protector or in jealousy because he was too
stupid to realize she was a girl prior to seeing her at the Ball in a dress
with a boy he idolized as a date, doesn't necessarily matter.
This is not how friends treat each other. Friends, potential love interests,
are not mean, spiteful and vindictive. Friends are supposed to be supportive,
comforting, concerned for each other, protective of each other, stunned
speechless by seeing the other in a new light, helpful, encouraging, and even
when they fight, everything is put to the side for the safety of the other.
That she’s Viktor’s most missed item in the Second Task either implies there
is an off-page romance Harry isn’t aware of or she means more to Krum than he
does to her. I don’t remember there being a marked absence of Hermione from
the Yule Ball on, so apparently she doesn’t spend much time with him. I was
surprised that what he’d miss most was a girl he just met. Doesn’t he have
parents? Friends?
It seems more like a device to me to see Harry’s reaction to Hermione being
in danger. He releases Ron, but doesn’t leave. He stays for Hermione; she’s
the one he goes to after he releases his own participant.
is an off-page romance Harry isn’t aware of or she means more to Krum than he
does to her. I don’t remember there being a marked absence of Hermione from
the Yule Ball on, so apparently she doesn’t spend much time with him. I was
surprised that what he’d miss most was a girl he just met. Doesn’t he have
parents? Friends?
It seems more like a device to me to see Harry’s reaction to Hermione being
in danger. He releases Ron, but doesn’t leave. He stays for Hermione; she’s
the one he goes to after he releases his own participant.
- There were rocks littering the lake bottom. He dived and
statue. He began to hack at the ropes binding Ron, and after
several minutes' hard work, they broke apart. Ron floated,
unconscious, a few inches above the lake bottom, drifting a
little in the ebb of the water.
- Harry looked around. There was no sign of any of the other
He turned back to Hermione, raised the jagged rock, and began
to hack at her bindings too -
- At once, several pairs of strong gray hands seized him.
shaking their green-haired heads, and laughing.
| Goblet of Fire Chapter 26 |
He stays for her, not for Cho or Gabrielle (whom he doesn’t even know and
just assumes she’s someone related to Fleur). Though, he would not leave
anyone in peril, I doubt he would have thought twice about either of them if
Hermione hadn’t been there. He's told Ron is his hostage. But it's seeing
Hermione unconscious, bound and floating there that keeps him in place
instead of playing the game.
Then, obviously, seeing Cho and Hermione saved he wouldn’t leave the littlest
girl to the merpeople’s whims.
just assumes she’s someone related to Fleur). Though, he would not leave
anyone in peril, I doubt he would have thought twice about either of them if
Hermione hadn’t been there. He's told Ron is his hostage. But it's seeing
Hermione unconscious, bound and floating there that keeps him in place
instead of playing the game.
Then, obviously, seeing Cho and Hermione saved he wouldn’t leave the littlest
girl to the merpeople’s whims.
When Harry surfaces with both Ron and Gabrielle, Hermione runs over to him
immediately and all but ignores Krum when he tries to get her attention back
on himself. He even asks her to visit him in Bulgaria. (She obviously
doesn’t go as she spends the whole summer at Grimmauld Place.)
immediately and all but ignores Krum when he tries to get her attention back
on himself. He even asks her to visit him in Bulgaria. (She obviously
doesn’t go as she spends the whole summer at Grimmauld Place.)
The 3rd Task had to be terrifying not being able to
see what was going on, not being able to help,
especially after helping with the last two (and
being able to watch/participate). The only thing to
do is offer themselves up as test dummies for Harry’
s stunners and other defensive spells. But this
cannot satisfy Hermione – she’s a doer, hands-on
especially where protecting Harry is concerned.
She had to sit there and watch as a wounded and
terrified Harry collapsed clutching a dead Cedric
and the Cup. And then before she could get to him
to see if he was okay, he was taken by Moody and
almost killed again!
Then she gets to hear the wonderful story of how
Harry was almost killed in the graveyard by a fully
restored Voldemort, who, by the way, doesn’t like
muggles or muggleborns. And being the muggleborn
best friend of the Boy Who Lived makes her not only
the most high profile, well-known muggleborn, but
also the biggest target.
see what was going on, not being able to help,
especially after helping with the last two (and
being able to watch/participate). The only thing to
do is offer themselves up as test dummies for Harry’
s stunners and other defensive spells. But this
cannot satisfy Hermione – she’s a doer, hands-on
especially where protecting Harry is concerned.
She had to sit there and watch as a wounded and
terrified Harry collapsed clutching a dead Cedric
and the Cup. And then before she could get to him
to see if he was okay, he was taken by Moody and
almost killed again!
Then she gets to hear the wonderful story of how
Harry was almost killed in the graveyard by a fully
restored Voldemort, who, by the way, doesn’t like
muggles or muggleborns. And being the muggleborn
best friend of the Boy Who Lived makes her not only
the most high profile, well-known muggleborn, but
also the biggest target.
When saying goodbye, Krum pulls her aside and she comes back looking off and
not quite meeting anyone’s eye. What did Krum say to Hermione?
not quite meeting anyone’s eye. What did Krum say to Hermione?
- Krum had come to say good-bye to Hermione.
"Could I have a vord?" he asked her.
"Oh...yes...all right," said Hermione, looking slightly
sight.
- "You'd better hurry up!" Ron called loudly after her. "The
- He let Harry keep a watch for the carriages, however, and
try and see what Krum and Hermione might be up to. They
returned quite soon. Ron stared at Hermione, but her face was
quite impassive.
- "I liked Diggory," said Krum abruptly to Harry. "He vos
- with Karkaroff," he added, scowling.
- "Have you got a new headmaster yet?" said Harry.
Krum shrugged. He held out his hand as Fleur had done,
suffering some sort of painful internal struggle. Krum had
already started walking away when Ron burst out, "Can I have
your autograph?"
- Hermione turned away, smiling at the horseless carriages
looking surprised but gratified, signed a fragment of parchment
for Ron.
| Goblet of Fire Chapter 37 |
She kisses Harry on the cheek when they reach Platform 9¾ before they leave,
granting Harry his very first kiss. After everything that’s happened I think
it’s a show of support and comfort, and yes, affection (they are friends).
Her best friend could very easily have died and now they’re leaving each
other where he’ll have no support system for a month. I think she’s worried
about him, understandably so. She may not know definitively that he’s the one
it’s going to come down to in the end, but she’s smart enough to sense it.
granting Harry his very first kiss. After everything that’s happened I think
it’s a show of support and comfort, and yes, affection (they are friends).
Her best friend could very easily have died and now they’re leaving each
other where he’ll have no support system for a month. I think she’s worried
about him, understandably so. She may not know definitively that he’s the one
it’s going to come down to in the end, but she’s smart enough to sense it.
